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Title: need help identifying and pricing porcelain doll head??
Post by: Billromigh on August 28, 2011, 09:49:06 PM

I have been looking all night trying to match this doll to another but they are all so similiar. Whats throwing me is that this one has a collar on it? any information would be excellent!

Title: Re: need help identifying and pricing porcelain doll head??
Post by: Billromigh on August 28, 2011, 09:50:38 PM

also its larger than others i have seen. its about 4.5" tall

Title: Re: need help identifying and pricing porcelain doll head??
Post by: Billromigh on August 29, 2011, 05:34:54 AM

I have correctly told?

Title: Re: need help identifying and pricing porcelain doll head??
Post by: sapphire on August 29, 2011, 06:07:44 AM

Ignore the spammer ^........reported post  ;)

Title: Re: need help identifying and pricing porcelain doll head??
Post by: sapphire on August 29, 2011, 06:10:15 AM

When tales sees this she'll likely have some good resource links for you and I'm pretty sure there's someone else here as well who's familiar with doll heads.

Title: Re: need help identifying and pricing porcelain doll head??
Post by: sapphire on August 29, 2011, 06:12:51 AM

Forgot to ask.....are there any sort of markings/imprints either front/back, inside/outside?

Title: Re: need help identifying and pricing porcelain doll head??
Post by: sapphire on August 29, 2011, 06:37:54 AM

Just checking on some sites and I'm leaning towards a Hertwig.......

http://www.antiquetrader.com/article/hertwig_family_dolls_found_in_many_doll_collections/

http://www.dollreference.com/china_head_dolls.html

http://www.ebay.com:80/itm/HERTWIG-LOW-BROW-BLOND-ANTIQUE-CHINA-DOLL-C-1900-NICE-/270494603351


Those with actual knowledge will be around to chime in  ;)

Title: Re: need help identifying and pricing porcelain doll head??
Post by: sapphire on August 29, 2011, 06:49:10 AM

This just helps with IDing what kind of doll one has......

http://antiquechild.com/category/china-doll-types-era-details/

"Lowbrow China dolls were the end of china doll production and made for 40 years.  Those that could not
afford  the ”new” bisque head dolls with ball jointed and leather bodies and REAL hair had to settle for 
a “cheap” doll.   China heads were sold in parts of heads, arms and legs through catalogs like Montgomery
Ward, Sears and Roebuck and Wards.  If the buyer could not afford arms and legs, a head was purchased
and the other parts were made from materials at hand.  When a part broke, another could be purchased. "

 1890 - 1930 Low Brow China Dolls

Title: Re: need help identifying and pricing porcelain doll head??
Post by: Billromigh on August 29, 2011, 07:28:26 AM

No there's no marking of any kind. I saw the hertwigs but they all have names accross the chest it seems. is it possible the name wore off?

Title: Re: need help identifying and pricing porcelain doll head??
Post by: sapphire on August 29, 2011, 07:42:28 AM

It seems there are specific ones with the names, but many show none at all. I know I ran across a picture somewhere of one showing just a collar (without name or other 'decoration'), but can't remember where in my travels I spotted it and don't think it had a maker attributed to it.

Title: Re: need help identifying and pricing porcelain doll head??
Post by: Billromigh on August 29, 2011, 08:28:25 AM

So can everyone on here agree it's a hertwig?Or more specifically a lowbrow turned head hurtwig?

Title: Re: need help identifying and pricing porcelain doll head??
Post by: ironlord1963 on August 29, 2011, 09:00:48 AM

     Sure looks Lowbrow to me for sure, can't verify hertwig, but I would say it looks just like the one Sapphire posted, "hair style".

Title: Re: need help identifying and pricing porcelain doll head??
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on August 29, 2011, 11:37:32 AM

I think that Hertwig is probably correct, but post it on the Ebay doll forum. There are some collectors/enthusiasts who are quite good at identifying antique dolls: http://forums.ebay.com/db1/forum/Dolls/18 (http://forums.ebay.com/db1/forum/Dolls/18) They were very helpful to me identifying a couple of my dolls.