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Title: Oriental ladels or what?
Post by: MyStuff on September 10, 2011, 03:34:29 PM
(http://Good day to all,

Thank you for reading my post.  I just obtained some oriental items I am not sure about as to their authenticity or what specificly they are.  The dark one almost reminds me of a ladel for pouring molten material.  I've attached photo links below.

[img]http://myimages.bravenet.com/391/931/688/7/Picturex91.jpg)

(http://myimages.bravenet.com/391/931/688/7/Picturex90.jpg)

(http://myimages.bravenet.com/391/931/688/7/Picturex92.jpg)

(http://myimages.bravenet.com/391/931/688/7/Picturex93.jpg)

(http://myimages.bravenet.com/391/931/688/7/Picturex94.jpg)

I am not looking for value, just wanting to know what they are.

If you happen to know of any oriental source I can inquire with, feel free to forward.

Thank you for your time and I look forward to your reply.

Kind regards
John
Title: Re: Oriental ladels or what?
Post by: mart on September 10, 2011, 07:19:11 PM
Size of each ?? 
Title: Re: Oriental ladels or what?
Post by: KC on September 10, 2011, 10:46:13 PM
Welcome John.

Will you please describe each piece as best you can.  Any markings (that you can distinguish) EX Dragon doing.... and the composition of the handles and bowls.  Kind of hard to tell from your pics.
Title: Re: Oriental ladels or what?
Post by: MyStuff on September 11, 2011, 09:31:11 AM
Uh yah! Dimension and description would help huh?  My bad!

I'll try and take some better pics.

The Brass one has
-"china" stamped on bottom.
-(Cup) 4 inch dia. top tapered down to a 2-1/4 inch dia bottom.  Back is 2 inch high, front is 2-3/8 inch high. The dragon design on the sides is just a wavy dragon mirrored on each side and some symbol on the end.  The background is just a wave pattern. 1/8 in. thk.
-(Handle) 4 inch long w/ 3 inch decorative, copper handle with colored enamel Various flowers and leaves with oriental building and hanging lamp on top.
-(Handle stem) to keep it from tipping back is 5/8 in. long x 3/16 in. dia.

The Dark cast iron one has
-No stamped markings
-(Cup) is 5 inch dia. top down to a 3-5/8 bottom, 2-3/4 high back side, 2 inch high front.  The design is pattern work all around w/ 3x symbols of some type.  1/4 inch thick.
-(handle) 6 inch long w/ 2-1/2 inch wood handle w/ 5x peices of inlayed, decorative stones.  (1 missing) The end has a 1 inch, decorative cylinder stone with a wood, carved flower on the very end.

Again, I'll try and take some better pics.
Thank you for the replies.
Kind regards
John
Title: Re: Oriental ladels or what?
Post by: snowflake on September 11, 2011, 09:47:04 AM
Maybe a melting pot of some type?

ETA:
Link to photo
http://www.liveauctioneers.com/item/9254564
Title: Re: Oriental ladels or what?
Post by: snowflake on September 11, 2011, 10:06:40 AM
It could also be an old chinese iron!

Check this link out:
http://www.hoffmanjade.com/pages/jade613.htm
Title: Re: Oriental ladels or what?
Post by: mart on September 11, 2011, 10:13:11 AM
Mmmm,,, looks like it !!  Just having China on the bottom rather than "Made in China" would date them before 1950 or so !!
Title: Re: Oriental ladels or what?
Post by: snowflake on September 11, 2011, 10:19:14 AM
I think a better term to look them up might be "Pan Iron" as shown here:
http://www.antiqbuyer.com/All_Archives/IRONS_ARCHIVE/panirons.htm
Title: Re: Oriental ladels or what?
Post by: MyStuff on September 11, 2011, 11:01:23 AM
Snowflake,

Thank you so very much for taking the time in helping me out.  I am totaly shocked at all avenues as to what it really is and what it's approximate value is.  WOW!  Thank you very much.  I am very greatful for the help.  I never expected such a prompt and thorough responce.  You are all so kind!

Kind regards
John
Title: Re: Oriental ladels or what?
Post by: snowflake on September 11, 2011, 11:25:21 AM
I am glad to have helped, John!  It was fun searching. I love a little mystery from time to time. :)
This forum and the people here helped me so much in the short while that I have been a member. You picked the right one to join!
Title: Re: Oriental ladels or what?
Post by: mart on September 11, 2011, 02:40:08 PM
Snowflake,

Thank you so very much for taking the time in helping me out.  I am totaly shocked at all avenues as to what it really is and what it's approximate value is.  WOW!  Thank you very much.  I am very greatful for the help.  I never expected such a prompt and thorough responce.  You are all so kind!

Kind regards
John

LOL !!  Thats how we get you hooked on the old stuff !! Pretty soon,,you can`t do without it !!
Title: Re: Oriental ladels or what?
Post by: talesofthesevenseas on September 11, 2011, 10:04:05 PM
Yes these are definitely silk irons. I've seen lots of these and love 'em! You put coals in the bowl and the brass would disperse the heat and make it safe to iron delicate Asian silks. Google antique silk iron and you will see lots of different types of these.