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Title: Victoria Czech Lamps
Post by: BadOrderKing on September 16, 2011, 01:19:38 PM
Last weekend my mother was getting ready to put these two lamps out for a garage sale. She says they belonged to her Great-Aunt and she had them when my mother was a child. Oky Doky..... I rescued two lamps.

BODY: 6" tall   /   9" including socket

BASE: 2.5" X 2.5"

STAMP: Victoria Czechoslavakia (green) with crown above.
         : 262 also stamped in silver

I was able to find the makers mark on Collectorscirlce.co m which indicates the lamps were made sometime between 1919 and 1945. However, this is all I have been able to find on them. Apparently Google does NOT know everything or I'm lazy. Anywho......

When packed away, several years ago??? they both worked. As long as I can remember, they have worn white shades that looks like possibly of the Wal-Mart-ish variety.

Can anyone tell me a little more about them? Did I rescue something decent or were they headed to the right place? I'm a noob so be gentle. OH, and i obviously not a
photographer either. LOL

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff490/carknocker101536/SANY1792.jpg)

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff490/carknocker101536/SANY1802.jpg)

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff490/carknocker101536/SANY1796.jpg)

(http://i1238.photobucket.com/albums/ff490/carknocker101536/SANY1801.jpg)
Title: Re: Victoria Czech Lamps
Post by: mart on September 16, 2011, 01:31:26 PM
Commonly called dresser lamps,, boudoir lamps ect !!  You did good rescuing those !! Would have a clip on shade and a cute little fringe !!  Look in good condition probably from 30`s or so !! Look like transferware !! Haven`t looked the stamp up yet !!
Title: Re: Victoria Czech Lamps
Post by: sapphire on September 16, 2011, 03:44:49 PM
http://www.collectorscircle.com/bohemian/porcelain/marks_table2.html (scroll way down near the bottom of the page)

"Victoria" Schmidt & Co, Stará Role, Czech Republic (Altrohlau, Bohemia, Austria)

"Founded 1883 by Lazarus and Rosenfeld, Ltd. 1885 it was sold to Franz Schmidt. It was the largest factory. The factory’s main concern was commercial production and was not concerned with artistic value. Still though, it produced some high quality pieces. It also manufactured a ceramic called porelite, a substandard version of porcelain. In 1945 it merged with the Altrohlau Porcelain Factories and the EPIAG factories to become a part of Starorolský Porcelán, then Karlovarský Porcelán Stará Role II in 1958."


Victoria  mark 1919 - 1945


Title: Re: Victoria Czech Lamps
Post by: sapphire on September 16, 2011, 03:46:31 PM
A nice article on Victoria Antique Porcelain (where I found the above link)

http://antiques.lovetoknow.com/Victoria_Antique_Porcelain
Title: Re: Victoria Czech Lamps
Post by: Chris_Marshall on September 16, 2011, 04:34:13 PM
I told Ginni more than once (when she still cared about her site, back in 2006) that her dating was wrong - shown mark was only used between 1918 and October 1938 (!) as the German army occupied the former Sudetengebiete at that time. In that process, nearly the whole main porcelain production region of Czechoslovakia was occupied and factories like the Victoria works were instantly forced to use a 'Germany' addition. The Victoria factory (due to its location directly next to a major railroad junction) was chosen as main producer of 'special order' items and only a month later started to produce items marked 'Victoria' above the infamous double Sig rune of the Waffen-SS.

And yes, all this took place one year BEFORE German forces marched into Poland (the 'official' start of World War 2).



Title: Re: Victoria Czech Lamps
Post by: Oceans64 on September 16, 2011, 04:52:17 PM
Thank you for clarifying Chris!  I knew that Czechoslovakia has gone through many changes (confirmed by Wiki http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Czechoslovakia) but using the same Country name through 3 changes was confusing me...

From Wiki

1918 - 1920: Republic of Czechoslovakia (abbreviated RČS)/Czecho-Slovak State;,[3] or Czecho-Slovakia/Czechoslovakia.
1920 - 1938: Czechoslovak Republic (ČSR), or Czechoslovakia.
1938 - 1939: Czecho-Slovak Republic, or Czecho-Slovakia.
1945 - 1960: Czechoslovak Republic (ČSR), or Czechoslovakia.
1960 - 1990: Czechoslovak Socialist Republic (ČSSR), or Czechoslovakia.
April 1990: Czechoslovak Federative Republic (Czech version) and Czecho-Slovak Federative Republic (Slovak version).
Title: Re: Victoria Czech Lamps
Post by: sapphire on September 16, 2011, 04:54:46 PM
Very educational correction Chris!  Thanks for the clarification...... .for those of us who know little to nothing we tend to take these sites on their word.

Good news for BadOrderKing......t hat pair of keep or toss lamps have become real keepers!
Title: Re: Victoria Czech Lamps
Post by: BadOrderKing on September 17, 2011, 11:23:51 AM
Thanks everyone for the responses. When I can slow down a bit, I have a few more things to post up.