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Title: Have another stumper...
Post by: Snapper on September 21, 2011, 02:29:24 PM
I don't know what this is or what it is made of. Bone, ivory? It's 5.5" long and it's very heavy. The hole is about 1/2" deep. Can anyone tell me anything about this? Thank you.
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Post by: sapphire on September 21, 2011, 02:38:43 PM
Snapper, is there another opening.....at an end? If not, possibly made to be a handle?
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Post by: Snapper on September 21, 2011, 03:02:27 PM
No other holes, just that one.
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Post by: sapphire on September 21, 2011, 03:29:08 PM
My other idea.........


http://library.mysticseaport.org/ere/odetail.cfm?id_number=1939.2045


Metal auger bit for wood working fitted to polished whale's tooth handle.

(http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t98/geeziesmom/m114086-r.jpg)
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Post by: mart on September 21, 2011, 04:05:27 PM
That was my idea too Sapphire !! This one looks like the bit was not put in yet,, no adhesive/glue left in hole !!  My dad had one very similar in his tool box for years but never saw him use it except for drilling starter holes in sheetrock !!
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Post by: talesofthesevenseas on September 21, 2011, 04:34:30 PM
Maybe it is just the photos, but does it look like wood to anyone besides me? Snapper, this page should help you to identify if it is bone, celluloid or ivory. http://www.antiquegamblingchips.com/distinguish_iv_bon_cel.htm (http://www.antiquegamblingchips.com/distinguish_iv_bon_cel.htm) If it is ivory, you should see a double criss-crossing grain on very close inspection. It may be very faint and visible in some parts but not others. Here is a good example of what to look for. This is my ivory parasol handle:

(http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x124/talesofthesevenseas/Parasol21.jpg)
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Post by: wendy177 on September 21, 2011, 05:14:16 PM
Yup Tales looks like wood to me also.
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Post by: mart on September 21, 2011, 06:08:36 PM
Could be petrified wood if its that heavy !! Polished would look similar !!
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Post by: fancypants on September 21, 2011, 09:54:19 PM
Looks like the item was cut from a chunk of fossilized walrus tusk , if I'm not mistaken ...

Also looks a bit unlike many Inuit pieces seen by me , in that it's finished in a very angular fashion (seemes 'newer') .

I'm thinking a fishing related item , not so much an ulu handle though ...
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Post by: KC on September 22, 2011, 12:43:53 AM
I was thinking along the same lines as a fishing item/handle as well fancypants!
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Post by: cogar on September 22, 2011, 04:06:17 AM
My first thought was that it looks like a hammer or gavel "head" that someone was making for "the Judge" ...... and the hole is for inserting the handle into. 
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Post by: Snapper on September 22, 2011, 08:19:19 AM
You guys are great! I'll check everything out. Thank you so much.
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Post by: mart on September 22, 2011, 08:45:34 AM
I give !!  Whats an ulu ???  Never mind I will look it up !!




Looks like the item was cut from a chunk of fossilized walrus tusk , if I'm not mistaken ...

Also looks a bit unlike many Inuit pieces seen by me , in that it's finished in a very angular fashion (seemes 'newer') .

I'm thinking a fishing related item , not so much an ulu handle though ...
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Post by: KC on September 23, 2011, 12:03:08 PM
(http://)

This is a ulu....traditionall y used by women in the kitchen!!!!
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Post by: fancypants on September 23, 2011, 01:14:24 PM
Another couple of ulus ... first one has a handle of petrified Oosik (not to be confused with ulu !!!) .
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Post by: mart on September 23, 2011, 03:39:58 PM
Way too many U`s and Ooo`s in this for a Texan !!
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Post by: hosman321 on September 23, 2011, 03:45:08 PM
Innnteresting!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Baculum
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Post by: snowflake on September 23, 2011, 04:27:40 PM
 ;D
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Post by: ironlord1963 on September 23, 2011, 04:32:17 PM
   Wow learn something new everyday here  :o
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Post by: mart on September 24, 2011, 04:32:09 AM
Learned that from watching Oddities !!  Had one from a walrus on one show !!
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Post by: Snapper on September 24, 2011, 08:02:36 AM
Wow! That is amazing, I had absolutely no idea. The Inuits used them a lot for skinning salmon so KC was on the right track. Wish I had the blade or whatever item was used in this particular handle. Can anyone guess the era?
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Post by: KC on September 24, 2011, 11:36:32 PM
hosman, my cousins gave me a raccoon baculum and asked me what it was in front of everyone at a family get together!  I had an inkling but wasn't about to say it out loud....They all roared!  They are considered to represent good luck and were worn by early Native American.  (Guess not good luck for the raccoon if someone is wearing it!)  These days they are sharpened and toted as decorative self defense.  They even make earrings/necklaces out of them!!!!!