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Title: What is this?
Post by: fptwist on October 30, 2011, 03:24:39 PM

 Some sort of pottery jug, 8" tall x 2 3/4" wide, has the name P. J. Eckert pressed into the pottery.  Any info would be appreciated.  Can't seem to find any direction to go in with this. Junk perhaps?

Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: Rauville on October 30, 2011, 05:59:44 PM

Looks like an early stoneware ginger beer / ale bottle. You might try looking for the name listed under breweries.

Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: mart on October 30, 2011, 07:17:40 PM

Not much time to look tonight !! Not a lot on this guy,,all I found tonight was that he owned a brewery/tavern in Elizabeth, NJ  from 1878 to 1884 when it closed !! Its a nice stoneware bottle and certainly not junk !!  Could be fairly rare but even then value would depend on who wants it !! I will look more tomorrow !!

Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: fptwist on October 31, 2011, 05:48:10 PM

The info is much appreciated, now I have a direction to go in.  Thanks!

Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: greenacres on October 31, 2011, 06:24:55 PM

I have a lot of antique bottles. One place I would go is The Antique Bottle Forum. I do have books, but somestime I'm not totally accurate, so someone will back me up either way.

Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: greenacres on October 31, 2011, 07:21:03 PM

Found what I think is it! George Kepnwein, Washington, DC, 1885-1875, 7-5/8", $100.-150. It's considered a crock in my book. I'll scan a picture.

Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: greenacres on October 31, 2011, 07:28:27 PM

As I said I'm not positive. I don't think they are the same name, but do think yours looks like this?

Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: fptwist on November 01, 2011, 05:37:12 AM

Thanks Greenacres, sure does look a lot like what I have.  Hard to tell exactly, the neck on my bottle seems a bit more stubby but it is very close. Certainly the same time period.  Appreciate your help. 

Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: greenacres on November 01, 2011, 02:47:39 PM

I'll keep checking and see if there's anything else I come up with.

Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: mart on November 01, 2011, 02:48:27 PM

There can be  several different styles of these stoneware bottles with only minor differences !! All are about the same time period !!

Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: KC on November 01, 2011, 03:43:25 PM

Have you looked into Ginger Beer?  That was EXTREMELY popular and sold in bottles like this!
Antique Ginger Beer Bottles (http://Antique Ginger Beer Bottles)

http://www.collectorsweekly.com/bottles/beer (http://www.collectorsweekly.com/bottles/beer)

http://www.mrbottles.com/galleryClayBeers.asp (http://www.mrbottles.com/galleryClayBeers.asp)

Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: greenacres on November 01, 2011, 03:48:38 PM

KC nice examples!

Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: mart on November 01, 2011, 04:30:38 PM

Problem with this one is little exists on PJ Eckert !! There is no record of what happened to his brewery or him after it closed in 1884 !!  I saw one PJ Eckert that is listed on facebook but I don`t do facebook !!  Could be a relative !!

Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: greenacres on November 01, 2011, 06:09:50 PM

Let me see if I can find anything.

Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: fptwist on November 01, 2011, 06:35:46 PM

Well I'm game, I will reach out to facebook P.J. Eckert.  Thanks for all the info.  I looked as well based on the research you did and I came up with what you found.  Since I am in New England this bottle is most likely from the Eckhert Brewery.  I did find another Eckert at a later date, Caroline that had a tavern in Camden from 1895-1896.  Fun stuff.

Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: fptwist on November 01, 2011, 06:45:21 PM

Thanks for the links KC.  A great resouce!

Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: greenacres on November 01, 2011, 06:48:10 PM

I can't believe it. If you remember me saying I bought books from the historic society from the Schuylkill River Valley. The Eckert Family is listed. This was a big bottling area. The family could have moved and started the brewery. When George Washinton imposed new laws to register bottles this became a hostile time. The breweries up North wanted to create a rebellion. They were going to overturn the "Constitution". Thus, there was the "Whiskey Rebellion". The family could have moved north. Let me look and see.

Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: greenacres on November 01, 2011, 07:07:50 PM

Neither Eckert Family is connected to the brewery, but I found it interesting that one was a member of I.O.O.F.

Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: greenacres on November 02, 2011, 11:41:58 AM

I just started thing about the Eckerts. The hisoric book they are in has to do with Beer brewers.

Title: Re: What is this?
Post by: mart on November 02, 2011, 05:57:30 PM

That would be who to look for,,,beer brewers !!