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Title: Value
Post by: daniel on November 18, 2011, 05:19:49 PM

Hello again! I have some more questions about a couple things I'm considering to bid on. I am new to this, so therefore need some support:) The first thing I am considering entering the bid is a music box from the 1800's, from Geneva. Item number two is a Chinese vase from 17/1800's. So my question is what kind of bids I should add me on these items.Sending with images of the objects.
Thanks for your reply:)

Title: Re: Value
Post by: Oceans64 on November 18, 2011, 06:03:57 PM

Hi Daniel...Welcome!!

Since you don't own these items, I'm assuming you can't get more pics?  It would really be helpful to see the underneath and very close up (esp of the vase). I am no expert (not even a novice) but when I hear old and Asian my mind immediately goes to repro. Meaning prove it's not cuz I'm assuming guilt before innocence.

Second, what kind of auction is this. Ebay vrs a local auction house vrs Christies is a big deal IMO. In my very limited experience, a local auction house will do what they can to verify a 18/19th century claim, Christies would be more reliable and eBay well, buyer beware LOL!!

Any more info? Do these come with a verifiable provenance?

Title: Re: Value
Post by: mart on November 18, 2011, 06:36:11 PM

I am with Oceans on these pieces !!  Best advice I can give is to get something in writing from the auction co. !! And find out if they stand behind the items they sell !!  If you can`t get a guarrantee of authenticity, I would not bid on them !!  Just too many repro`s on the market !!

Title: Re: Value
Post by: daniel on November 18, 2011, 06:41:16 PM

Quote from: Oceans64 on November 18, 2011, 06:03:57 PM

Hi Daniel...Welcome!!

Since you don't own these items, I'm assuming you can't get more pics?  It would really be helpful to see the underneath and very close up (esp of the vase). I am no expert (not even a novice) but when I hear old and Asian my mind immediately goes to repro. Meaning prove it's not cuz I'm assuming guilt before innocence.

Second, what kind of auction is this. Ebay vrs a local auction house vrs Christies is a big deal IMO. In my very limited experience, a local auction house will do what they can to verify a 18/19th century claim, Christies would be more reliable and eBay well, buyer beware LOL!!

Any more info? Do these come with a verifiable provenance?

Hey, thanks for the quick reply. This is an auction taking place in Sweden. There are artifacts from the estate and etc. I only have a picture showing the underside of the vase. Hope it can help:)

Regards Daniel

Title: Re: Value
Post by: mart on November 18, 2011, 07:01:54 PM

About the best I can do is to say that the vase could possibly be 1800`s but I wouldn`t go farther back than that without close up pics !!  These do not enlarge so anything I said would be a guess !!  Just don`t pay a lot for them !!

Title: Re: Value
Post by: Oceans64 on November 18, 2011, 07:49:07 PM

Is the bottom glazed? Maybe others would know if that is normal on a 200yo piece

Title: Re: Value
Post by: Rauville on November 18, 2011, 08:13:43 PM

In regard to the music box: Value depends on cylinder size, how many tunes, comb condition, case condition, etc. I would guess somewhere between $600 to $1200 would be considered a fair price to pay.

Title: Re: Value
Post by: mart on November 19, 2011, 11:35:21 AM

Quote from: Oceans64 on November 18, 2011, 07:49:07 PM

Is the bottom glazed? Maybe others would know if that is normal on a 200yo piece

Hard to tell but looks like the bottom is glazed but foot is not !!  Foot does show some age but hard to tell how much !!